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Federal Prosecutors Appear to Concede Cannabis' Medical Benefits, Source: http://static.squarespace.com/static/52079f6fe4b004c7f36f66b5/t/520a66eae4b04f935ef04242/1376413418986/court-gavel_shutterstock.jpgAssistant US Attorney Gregory Broderick stumbled badly in his cross-examination of Dr. Carl Hart in federal evidentiary hearings to determine the constitutional basis of the federal Schedule I classification of cannabis, appearing at times to even tacitly endorse the idea that cannabis has medical value. In hearings conducted on October 27th by the Hon. Kimberly Mueller in the federal Eastern District of California in the matter of US v Schweder, attempts by US Attorneys to paint Hart – who teaches neuroscience at Columbia University and sits on an advisory board to the National Institute of Drug Abuse (NIDA) – as a researcher blinded by his personal biases blew up, at times embarrassingly, in their faces.

In one dramatic example, Broderick asked Hart about the Diagnostic and Statistical Manual (DSM), which is published by the American Psychiatric Association and contains a definition of “substance use disorder” (AKA addiction) which has been regarded as definitive by courts. Noting that the substance abuse standard promulgated by the 4th edition of the DSM (the DSM-IV) results in an oft-quoted 9% rate of dependence among lifetime users of cannabis, Broderick requested Hart’s comment.

But Hart appeared to stun Broderick with his response that the newest version of the DSM, the DSM-V, explains that tolerance and withdrawal from cannabis are “normal symptoms to be expected of legitimate medical cannabis use” in states where it is legal. (This point was later expanded upon by the testimony of Dr. Philip Denny, another expert witness for the defense.)

Broderick tried to recover by bringing up some of Dr. Hart’s family history in an apparent attempt to show bias. Asking about the legal troubles of his adult son and other members of his family, Broderick tried to insinuate that these troubles had spurred Dr. Hart on to some kind of personal mission to legalize drugs. “I’m a black man in America,” Dr. Hart replied. “You’d be hard pressed to find someone like me who isn’t closely connected to someone” who has been through the penal system.

Nevertheless, Dr. Hart brushed off these and all other attempts by Broderick to make Dr. Hart’s testimony about Dr. Hart. In response to questions of whether certain propositions accorded with his opinion, Hart repeatedly and emphatically replied no: “It’s not my opinion,” the scientist said. “It’s what the evidence indicates.”

Broderick’s attempts to discredit Dr. Hart’s credentials backfired even worse. At one point, the prosecutor asked why Hart was an expert in medical matters when he doesn’t hold an M.D. (Hart’s PhD is in neuropsychopharmacology). “I teach at Columbia’s medical school,” Hart replied. “I train doctors.”

Soon after, when Broderick brought up the fact that the American Medical Association had released statements calling cannabis a “dangerous drug,” Hart replied: “Think about what you just said. The AMA committee reads research, such as what I conduct, to form their positions. So why would I go to them for their opinion?”

The intellectual mismatch between the two adversaries became so painfully apparent that at one point Broderick attempted a joke to relieve the tension. “I was a political science major,” Broderick protested. “Not neuroscience.”

But the joke was on him later in the examination when Broderick appeared to misunderstand some of the nuance of Hart’s explanations of NIDA operations. “I thought you were a political science major,” Hart retorted, as laughter exploded in the courtroom.

By Jeremy Daw

Jeremy Daw is the Leaf's founding Editor-in-Chief - with cofounder Chris Conrad, who teaches at Oaksterdam University. A 2008 graduate of Harvard Law School, he is also the author of Weed the People: From Founding Fiber to Forbidden Fruit (2012) and the former editor of Cannabis Now Magazine.

24 thoughts on “Federal Prosecutors Appear to Concede Cannabis’ Medical Benefits”
  1. […] Broderick continued to question Harts answers as his opinion, and Hart emphatically responded more than once, “It’s not my opinion, It’s what the evidence indicates.” Broderick’s attempt to discredit Hart’s credentials backfired even worse. At one point, the prosecutor asked why Hart was an expert in medical matters when he doesn’t hold an M.D. (Hart’s PhD is in neuropsychopharmacology). “I teach at Columbia’s medical school,” Hart replied. “I train doctors.” The Leaf […]

  2. I just got this feed recently  http://edca.typepad.com/eastern_district_of_calif/2015/01/schweder-marijuana-hearing-continued-to-february-11-230-pm.html

  3. marmstrong1203 Well said.  Now that I’m in my golden years and retired I feel the same way about marijuana legalization.  I do what I can by contributing to the Marijuana Policy Project (MPP).  I wish more people would do the same.

    http://www.mpp.org/

  4. I can provide you with over 35 yrs of marijuana data, its effects, benefits & so on. In 1996 I was involved in an accident that resulted in a ruptured disc & herniated disc in my lower back. I was prescribed numerous narcotic pain pills, which I became addicted to within a short time. Finally I said, I can’t take feeling like that anymore & I went thru some serious withdrawls off the pain medicine & I self medicated with marijuana & this is the gods honest truth, within a short period of time I began to feel better & even got in better shape than I was before the accident. It is my personal opinion that there is only one reason it’s not legal every where & that’s because certain people will not be able to benefit from it being legal for whatever reason. I plan to back it’s legalization in all states & I will seek out those that try to stop it & find out your motivation for spreading lies to our citizens of this great country which my family has fought & died for.
    Here’s the bottom line, oil companies & pharma companies make the most money in our country & they have the power, so they think, legalization would create power shifts that they’re afraid of & most likely it will, but that’s how it is going to be, so get use to it.

  5. As a Vietnam Era Veteran with 40 years VA Pharmaceutical Drug use for PTSD/Depression and Chronic Pain………’Not a Pothead’

    I offer my personal medical records to any  Physician, Politician, or court in the land!!

    Since removing myself from pharmaceutical drugs in May of this year…………..I’ve gone from a bedridden, deeply depressed individual…….to a happy, fully functioning human being!!!

    Final and most important goal of my life……….Promote Medical Marijuana as a safe, non- debilitating addition to VA  PHARMACY FORMULARY!!

    American Veterans experience the most painful, agonizing disabilities known to man!!……..They deserve the very best healthcare available!!

  6. Dr. Greg Carter’s testimony should not be overlooked. Our federal government ( The Department of Health and Human Services) funded the research that he did in 2000, 2001 and just a few months after Dr. Carter released his findings to our government a patent was applied for. It appears they trusted the research the did then enough to apply for a patent.The good Dr. should be commended for his research.  

    http://aacmsite.org/Portals/0/Carter%20Cannabis%20ALS%20Am%20J%20Hospice%20Pall%20Med%202001.pdf

  7. Wow_zers Gordon Rowland Absolutely Wow zers! The good news is: The truth will out, the cat’s out of the bag, the genie’s out of the bottle, and there’s no putting them back again! It’s just a matter of time, provided we all keep up the pressure. Colorado did it, so did Uruaguay, Portugal, somewhere new it seems, almost every week or so, and we can do it too. And the idiots as you describe them will be left opened mouthed, on the wrong side of history. And then, where will they get a job? (in the criminal underworld or selling themselves on the street maybe?)

  8. Gordon Rowland Remember, the government is absolutely filled to the brim with idiots who got their job because they couldn’t get work elsewhere, or because they’re connected to someone. So you have the governments best idiot, versus an absolute genius. And the governments fiction vs. scientific facts. It’s almost too easy, the hard part is just getting the government to play the game at all.

  9. Some truth is finally being listened to… I hope they are recording these hearings, because I would actually pay to see them! Keep mopping the floor with the truth!!! I can’t wait for tomorrow to hear how the Gov.’s witness reacts. Do they continue with the lies or do they come out and finally admit some truth..

  10. The Federal Government has already provided us with evidence that is quite useful in proving cannabis IS medicine.
    Elvy Mussika ans Irv Rosenfeld have been receiving cannabis for decades. 
    Their experiences alone is evidence that cannabis helps alleviate certain conditions like Cancer. 
    Any arguments for not rescheduling is obviously biased

  11. Great article and thanks to the Leaf Online for being in the courtroom. Reminds me of the comment made by former Surgeon General (and medical marijuana supporter) Jocelyn Elders about former HHS chief Donna Shalala (who despite admitting she’d smoked pot in college, came out against mmar after Prop. 215 passed). Elders said of Shalala, “She studied political science. That’s the kind of science she practices.”

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