It started out as just a poem that I wrote one day, or one night — I think it might have been a late-night scribble in my notebook. And my husband just found the first couple lines. I had written, ‘Sometimes I’m Virginia Woolf / Sometimes I’m James Dean.’ … It’s probably something that nobody would have heard, had it not been for him going back through my notebook and telling me what was salvageable and what was not. … We’re always very critical of each other. So if something’s good, we tell each other that it’s good, and if something’s s***, then we toss it out the window.

I definitely feel the counterplay of feeling like — sometimes things feel really nice, as far as where we’re at now. But there still is pain and temptation and all of these things that kind of make up a human.

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