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There are 119 comments on Snow Closes Charles River and Medical Campuses

        1. The dining halls are the only source of food (needed to survive for one day) for “everyone on campus”? Well, in that case, it seems there’s a bit of a self-sufficiency problem, eh?

          1. If it’s the university’s responsibility to provide students with sufficient amenities, then they have to do exactly that. I’m not understanding what you’re implying?

    1. Thanks for deciding to close BUMC as well. I was shocked to have gotten an announcement saying BUMC was closed before I got the BU announcement. For a minute I thought they had made an error.

  1. This was the right decision given the forecast, current snow fall already on the ground and limited MBTA service tomorrow . Not looking forward to another day of shoveling though! Come on spring I am ready for you.

  2. Dear Boston University,

    I commented last week about how unfair it was that BU closed the Charles River Campus, and not the BU Medical Campus, during the same snow storm. I believe it is only fair to commend BU for closing both campus for this storm. Well done. The safety of all your employees seems to be at the forefront of this decision. As an employee on the BU Medical Campus, I’d like to say, thank you.

    Sincerely,

    A Hopeful Employee

    1. Fair enough, but as Chris Rock says, you don’t get extra credit for doing what you’re supposed to do. Time will tell if BU will be operating under one policy for both campuses, starting Tuesday as the MBTA just announced they will be closed tomorrow.

  3. That’s university news for you: weather sucks, a game counting for an obscure competition in an unspecified sport is delayed, another game is delayed. Oh, classes are canceled too.

        1. I’m not going to touch the implication that college sports players aren’t “actual sportsmen,” but no, it’s not like the Super Bowl. The Super Bowl is football; the Beanpot is hockey.

          1. I’m in school for an education, not to watch a bunch of drunk people watch a bunch of other people run around chasing a puck or a ball or whatever.

        1. Maybe consider expanding your horizons a little..the Beanpot is the most historical event in BU sports. It’s not a matter of caring about sports, it is about having pride in your school and knowing what is going on around you.

          1. One is proud of a school if it educates people well. It’s good to see most of your class becoming great engineers and surgeons, hired by the best companies and hospitals. Everything else, sports included, is marginal to a university’s mission. Tsinghua and Jiaotong, Imperial College and UCL, Harvard and MIT – do you think they compete on amateur sports?

    1. Not that I’m an authoritative source, but if the University is closed I wouldn’t anticipate anyone being able to get into any classroom or administrative building unless one has keys.

    1. T will be running but, as the article notes, on an abbreviated schedule. That means far fewer trains than normal and delays. MBTA is running busses on the Red Line between certain stops. Please refer to MBTA’s website for latest information.

  4. not to be too Talmudic about it… but when the administrations say the campus is closed ‘all day’, is there a possibility that EVENING classes might be held, e.g., if the weather clears?

  5. does anyone else find it weird that there are student employees required to come in for work tomorrow? i feel like there should be some kind of system for non-dining students (and preferably, for me, student dining employees as well) that are not ACTUALLY essential to the functioning of the campus to be allowed to not come into work if they are students.

    1. I’m sure if you contacted your boss and told them you couldn’t come in that it’d be fine. I know a couple weeks ago when we had the two snow days in a row my boss sent an email out the day before saying that if classes weren’t canceled but we didn’t feel safe coming to work then we didn’t have to.

    2. It seems to me that, of anyone, students living on campus have the best chance of safely being able to make it to work (especially if going to places like the on campus dining locations being kept open for students). If you live away from campus, I would imagine that bosses would be understanding.

  6. While most of us are safely staying home doing nothing more back-breaking than pounding our keyboards, I want to give a SHOUT OUT to all those BU employees who are doing an amazing job of clearing the sidewalks and streets at the CRC. They are working around the clock, many of them sleeping in offices, to keep the University functioning on those few days when it is actually open. Maybe a BU Today story on those workers would be appropriate. Speaking of stories, has anyone else noticed that the link to the previous BU Today article on snow closing has mysteriously been disabled? i.e., try linking to

    http://www.bu.edu/today/2015/crc-closed-med-campus-open-monday/

    1. Agreed! I’d love to see a story about the work that people do on the campuses to respond to snow storms, as well as provide essential services such as dining. With record snowfall in recent weeks, it seems to be a good time for such a story.

      I also hope they’re well rewarded for their efforts; often the people in such essential roles are among the least well paid.

    2. Completely agree! I know after Juno, students gathered at the GSU link to write thank you letters/notes to the BU employees who worked to keep our campus clean. A BU Today story would be perfect to give them the well-earned recognition they deserve. I also hope they are extremely well rewarded for their efforts, clearing out almost 6 ft of snow over the last 2 weeks.

  7. Although there has been a bit of snow, there were several days of closure that were unnecessary. Most of the counties of and near Boston have exceeded their budgets for snow removal. This is why schools and universities close, and why the governor has urged businesses to close. Your safety is not the main priority for government officials – they don’t want to spend anymore money to clean up the snow.

      1. There’s nothing mean spirited or paranoid about what i said. You can see for yourself, there are plenty of articles. The budgets for snow removal have been exceeded. So they have to cut into other sources or the budget for next year (do you think officials are happy to do that?). This is typical; under-budgeting for snow to make sure they don’t lose any of the money if the winter ends up being mild. It’s not rocket science. I’m just raising some points for you to think about – that’s what your brain is for.

    1. ookbot,

      Do you even live in Massachusetts? Our 3 week snowfall totals are unprecedented (all time records). You call that a bit of snow?

      Perhaps you are an uniformed parent from out of state. Please don’t just show up here criticizing our state officials.

      1. Yes I do live in Massachusetts. Do you think someone from outside MA would be looking at BU Today and posting comments? People like you are the reason nothing ever improves. The snow is not getting cleaned up. Garbage is not being picked up due to the snow. Crosswalk signs don’t work. The T is extremely slow and crowded. This is not that much snow. Have you ever been to Montreal, Syracuse, Buffalo? They get much more snow but their streets are cleaned faster and more efficiently. Boston is a great place, but you should perhaps not be so angry with your fellow citizens all the time and start complaining a bit. Things aren’t perfect here. The population has grown immensely in recent years. And the city has not been able to manage this well. But there is plenty of money here, so things should work better than they do. Your reply is very typical – just be angry with everyone around you and praise the system. You ride on the T and get angry at the other people when it’s too crowded. Did you ever think to complain to the city? Perhaps they can add more trains? Perhaps it’s not safe to be so crowded? I’m not angry with you, so don’t be angry with me. Just think a bit.

        1. I’m from Buffalo and its 100% normal for things to be shut down for a day for snow removal. This includes delaying garbage, having parking bans, etc. Snow actually isn’t removed completely in storms like this either, but people don’t hear about it because we’re used to it and used to the slower pace for the next couple days after. If you would like people to risk their lives by driving in this insanity just to pick up trash on a certain day, you need to think about your priorities

        2. For the record, I definitely live outside MA and I look at BU Today and here I am posting comments.

          And before you go off on my intelligence, I am an administrator in Special Education. It just so happens that one of my daughters is a BU alum and I still feel a connection to the place.

          FWIW.

        3. Oh, geez, alright Okbot, I’m going to bite on this one.

          Do you have data to support your claims? What you are offering is the classic slanting ideas propaganda….the ‘ol if/then thinking. Ironic that you urge folks to “just think a bit” while you’re using this propaganda technique. You presume that since the budgets are exhausted that the city is not going to clear the streets because they don’t want to spend the money. Wow.

          Here’s some data: Boston has now hit a record for the amount of snowfall in 30 days. Look around you. (Assuming you live in Boston) See the mountains of snow piled up? Do you presume to think this is typical? I have lived in the snow belt in Cleveland before moving to NOLA and the truth is, when there is this much snow and it is dangerous to be out, yes, businesses do close down. Schools close down. And if you look around, (again, assuming you live in Boston) you will see snow removal equipment out and about. Just look at the BU webcam and you’ll see them plowing the snow at Marsh Plaza in the middle of a blizzard.

          And hey………you could even be right. But if you’re going to post in a forum full of highly educated folks, perhaps offer something more than rhetoric.

        4. Some more facts for my new friends:
          -the mbta closed the T at 7pm this evening and will stay closed tuesday.
          -the T ran all day today with snow, now the snow has more or less stopped and there are no projections for snow tomorrow. So snow = T runs, and no snow = T closes.
          Smarter Child: would you like to start questioning your “state officials” a bit? The governor is extremely upset with the mbta for closing the T.
          Do you think this city is doing a good job? Boston was selected as the US choice for the Olympics. In the word of Seinfeld: “Really?”

          1. yesterday the governor chewed out the mbta for closing, saying that they need to stay open so people can go to work. today he himself declared a state of emergency. what are your thoughts? why the inconsistencies? do you think they are doing a good job of handling the situation?

          2. He declared a state of emergency for the mutual aid, so that the national guard and neighboring states could assist Massachusetts.
            Is the T having problems? Yes, obviously it is. Did you see the story about the stuck red line train? How about the number of buses that are being used where the rail system is struggling with the amount of snow on the ground? The T is closed so they can try to get things cleaned up and repaired enough to run more normally (clean off the third rail, repair motors, etc.). Am I happy with the T being closed? Well, it’s not really affecting me, but I guess not. Which is worse: people getting stuck on trains because the T was not able to clean and repair while running, or people having to find other means of transportation?
            The Olympic bid? Well, they’re going for Summer, so there shouldn’t be any snow during that season … knock on wood. More seriously, a lot of the complaints I see about the Olympic bid are about how it will take focus away from things like upgrading transportation, but that’s one of the things it actually would fast-track. Plans for those upgrades would be moved forward on the timeline.

            I think the city of Boston and the Commonwealth are trying very hard to get things running smoothly and safely after all this snow. I’m sure they’re not happy about the rapidly blossoming costs of snow clean-up and removal, but I do think they are continuing to work with safety in mind. There’s just only so much that can be done so fast. I don’t know about you, but there’s not really anywhere to put the snow from my driveway anymore; the piles are over my head, and the snow keeps coming … The city has the same issues of where to put the snow; there’s no magic wand that sends it to the snow farms immediately when it comes down; it has to be cleared from the streets and then it has to be trucked off.

          3. thanks for your comment A. If I would have mentioned in my post that the state of emergency was for mutual aid, i would have been accused of being paranoid (see earlier comments). it’s clear why the governor declared a state of emergency. the handling has just not been consistent or decisive. i realize this was a lot of snow in a short period, but we’ve had worse single storms before. And I personally see lots of things not working well during non-snow seasons as well. but there are never discussions about those and i have found (i’ve lived in many parts of the country) that people don’t seem to complain much or recognize when something is not up to par here in boston. is there a lot of snow? sure. but i’ve seen worse winters and disasters/emergencies. they don’t seem to handle things well here – poor decisions, lack of organization, inefficient systems, inconsistencies. Does it bother anyone else that there is a mandate that a police officer must be present for every little road construction or service job? Big construction sites okay. But I often see jobs where there are literally 2 workers from Nstar with one small truck, 3 orange cones, and a police officer standing there doing nothing (nothing = talking on their cell phone or chit chatting with the workers). is that really necessary? that costs a lot of money. there is a traffic light/pedestrian walk near my office that is broken literally once per month for the last 2 years. the T never operates on time and is extremely crowded during rush hour (during warm months also); so crowded that i’m sure we are violating some hazards. sure, this is a city. but we’ve been growing as a city and the city (government that is) has not adjusted well. they just don’t seem prepared for anything. weather people knew this would be a harsh winter. the first storm we had was especially bad, but the next day the roads were clean, yet schools (and BU) were still closed? and why was the clean up good after that storm (which dumped the most) but some of these other few-incher storms are not being cleaned up well? why did they stop using salt/sand on most roads? did it run out? no more money to buy more? A: i have been hearing this about no where to put the snow, but i’m not sure. i don’t see any reason not to plow. if the street gets narrower, fine. at least you can drive on it. i live just off a main street, and the plows have come sporadically. are we really that strained with resources (trucks, workers)? or is it a budget issue? lack of organization? officials not knowing where to find extra budget if they are empty? just general panic over something that is not that crazy? there have been worse single storms here. what would happen if we got hit with something bigger? or some other disaster? can we really count on our state/city? officials don’t seem to come together well and work to get a job done. very odd handling of this situation…

  8. The governor mentioned yesterday that today and tomorrow will be dangerous days to be out on the road. Even though most of the snow will be cleared by tomorrow, he said that the morning commute will be definitely affected. Shouldn’t this increase our chances of having a delay tomorrkw morning?

  9. We’ve now missed 3 lecture days scheduled MWF and only one scheduled Tues & Thurs. Why can’t we have a Monday schedule on Thursday? That would be a practical way to keep schedules in balance and equal pacing — 2 missed MWF days and 2 missed Tues/Th days. I really hope we do this, otherwise there’s a whole week of a MWF-scheduled course that we can’t make up.

    1. One problem with this is that not everyone’s classes are on MWF/TR schedule.

      I do think it is likely that the university will do something like having a Monday schedule on another day of the week.

      1. Why not? BU substitutes schedules when we have holiday’s off- why can’t they apply that to a snow day? It’s not like some of us get a Monday class and some don’t; we’re all missing out on the same day.

        1. That’s why in the second sentence I said I think it is likely that they’ll do this. I was just pointing out that it might not be on Thursday since many classes have other schedules.

          The problem with this is that we still miss many days of classes. Plus, many professors have already scheduled makeup sessions of classes, so that would make things more confusing in terms of having enough sessions of each class. I’d rather have this happen than miss this many classes, though!

  10. Can we please have a snow day or at least some sort of delay tomorrow so that the roads can be cleaned? For the past few day-after-snow day commutes I’ve been arriving an hour late to my first class even though I leave my house at 5. I know there are several others like me, and the commute is way slower bcoz the roads aren’t clean or wide. If my professors were actually helpful when I try to make up the work, I wouldn’t be complaining, but every time I ask what I missed they just say “get the notes from a student” and if no students are willing to give the notes, what then?its frustrating to try as hard as I can at my education and still not reap the full benefits

    1. I second this. I live an hour and a half away from campus and last day-after-snow day commute I arrived 3 hours later than I normally would. I get that BU isn’t a commuter school but a delay at least would be greatly appreciated.

  11. There are a few comments on here that advocate for a delayed or canceled day tomorrow. Normally, I would not support such a decision, but at this point, even clearing the university enough to navigate will not create safe community for faculty, staff and students. Up until Friday, the snow banks were so high that students were walking out into the street nearly getting hit by cars due to their lack of attention and the lack of space on sidewalks and crosswalks. I hope that the mayor and governor declare a state of emergency so that the city of Boston could potentially get National Guard support in removing this snow. Academics is very important, but not by sacrificing our communities safety.

    1. Agreed. I depend on the MBTA to get to–and home from–class, but what with all the recent snow, the bus shelters are buried. I’m looking at University Road and Granby especially. I had to wait for the bus on top of a 5′ high snow mound, and when it finally came I nearly slipped and stumbled into traffic. And don’t even get me started on the insane public transit delays in the morning! I had to leave an hour and a half early last Tuesday to give myself enough time to catch a bus because they only come around every half hour anyway, and you can bet the first couple will be too packed to cram into. The university and the city need more time to make commuting feasible.

  12. I just read that the MBTA subway and commuter rail are shutting down at 7pm tonight. Be prepared to walk or get a ride if you need to get somewhere tonight.

      1. Bus lines can barely handle the amount of people on a *normal* day (I know the 57 can’t, at least), so I can’t even imagine what it’ll be like if BU expects everyone west of StuVi to try to get on.

  13. Considering the MBTA is mostly shut down, I don’t know how I’m going to get to class tomorrow. I live over an hour away, and rely on the commuter rail to make it to BU everyday. I can’t drive to school, because there is nowhere to park and the roads are awful to drive on. A lot of teachers are in this same predicament, so I really hope they make the decision to cancel classes tomorrow.

  14. BU- if you are going to open up tomorrow, please haul some of the snow. I saw a student almost get wiped out because they had to walk into the street because they couldn’t get onto the sidewalk. It’s a problem.

    1. It is also posted on the MBTA website that service is suspended all day tomorrow so that they can get cleaned up and running. They just can’t keep up. Honestly, I don’t know how anyone can. I know myself I’m exhausted and sore from clearing snow and it’s not over. We can’t even plow it anymore because the banks are so tall that the snow just hits the banks and tumbles back down. There’s absolutely no more room to put it.

  15. So how does BU expect students living off campus around washington street and farther up the B line to get to campus without the subway and very limited buses?

      1. Walking isn’t really an option for some students … it’s probably more common amongst grad. students, but some people live out in the suburbs; a half-hour to forty-five-minute commuter rail ride isn’t so easily replaced by walking. I have no problem walking to BU from Copley, but from Newton? Or Framingham? Yeah, it’s less than a marathon, but what route would be plausible? and a marathon to get to class seems a bit ridiculous (I know I haven’t trained for one …).
        I realize this is a moot point now, as they have decided to close Tuesday, but it’s something I think should be out there for those who are suggesting that MBTA users can just walk.

  16. I wonder what BU’s contingency plan is for making up classes. As far as I know they have 5 or so allotted snow days. Perhaps we’ll lose a holiday or an odd Saturday to make up classes?

  17. I would also like to just take a minute to commend the excellent job and hard work shown by all of the essential personnel on campus, most notably the facilities workers. I have never seen more efficient snow removal in my life- these individuals have made not only my life but everyone at the university’s life so much easier. If only the rest of Boston could clear the snow as efficiently as our facilities workers do. Thank you for your hard work, and please know how much all of us at the school appreciate it. I sincerely do hope you’re being properly compensated for your time and effort.

  18. I hope they make a decision soon. As someone with two children who have no school/daycare tomorrow because of the snow, it would be nice to know for finding other daycare options. And I guess since the commuter rail is closed too it would be helpful to know if my wife should give me a ride when she leaves for work at 4:30 am. I’m all for having class tomorrow, as we’ve missed enough days already. But it takes a lot of planning to be able to attend on a day like tomorrow, so the earlier the notification one way or the other the better.

  19. With all of the technology available to BU, why are professors not posting videotaped lectures, moderating online discussions, or doing something to ensure that this semester is not lost?

    1. And do you really think the professors have the resources to video tape and post their lectures? That would be such a huge undertaking, to properly videotape all lectures and store them somewhere for students to access.

      1. Not really. My computer science professor has done it for the two lectures we’ve missed by doing a voice over of the powerpoint and posting it on YouTube. Obviously there are classes like labs and seminars where that wouldn’t be so simple or possible at all, but there are a lot of professors who are just shrugging their shoulders and not doing anything. At least some notes going over the missed material would be something to compensate for the lost education we’re paying dearly for.

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